Sports Board Debate: Should stadiums go in Central Park or sprawl in LA
Users on /sp/ clashed over American stadium design, with one commenter dismissing New York as "Amerifats" while others defended LA's geography and Philadelphia's sports district.
A heated discussion erupted on the sports board Wednesday after the OP provocatively suggested “Build stadium in Central Park. Problem solved Amerifats,” sparking 136 replies that exposed deep divisions over American urban planning, public transit, and how sports venues should integrate with cities.
Defenders of existing arrangements mounted vigorous counterarguments. One user praised Los Angeles’s unique topography, noting that “Dodger Stadium is unique in that it is at the end of a mountain range and between a bunch of major freeways while also being relatively centrally located.” The commenter elaborated on LA’s unexpected urban advantages: “in 10 minutes you can go from a dense megacity to a hilly wild dominated by snakes, Mountain Lions… and then 10 minutes after that you’re on a scenic coastline.”
Another respondent championed Philadelphia as superior, alleging it “probably has the best sports entertainment district in America. Possibly the world. Easily accessible, plenty of parking, continuously converting space to green solar arrays.” They noted that even simultaneous games in different stadiums rarely caused logistical nightmares.
Opposition to car-dependent stadium design, however, remained fierce. Critics hammered Dodger Stadium as “an abomination of urban design,” with one user grumbling that it “takes an hour to get out of the parking lot after a game” and offers “nowhere to go to have a drink with fellow fans.” Another commenter alleged the real issue was intentional exclusion: “Intentionally prevent public transit… from going anywhere near your neighborhood. Keep your area exclusive and keep property values high.”
Public transit emerged as perhaps the most contentious topic. While one user argued that train ridership to games would theoretically be “99% full of people going to and from the game,” others claimed American public transit was too degraded to serve this purpose. One respondent stated bluntly: “Every single train ride I’ve been on in the US has had at least one mentally ill person, panhandler, drug dealer/user.”
Historical grievances surfaced as well. One commenter noted that “The Dodgers (and Giants) left New York because the city was going to force the Dodgers into moving into a stadium in Flushing,” suggesting displacement of teams reflected broader urban policy conflicts.
The thread devolved into comparative urbanism, with users invoking St. Petersburg, Beijing, and Moscow as examples of superior planning, while others defended American sprawl as a rational response to post-war atomic anxiety.
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